tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post22278172142714057..comments2024-03-21T08:00:48.696-07:00Comments on No Shortage of Dreams: A 1964 Proposal for a Small Lifting-Body Shuttle with "Staged Reentry"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-32359804695461965752017-03-17T11:51:17.817-07:002017-03-17T11:51:17.817-07:00I will say this--such a staged re-entry vehicle wo...I will say this--such a staged re-entry vehicle would have been perfect for a scenario similar to what you have in the movie "Life"<br /><br />One of the containers starts rocking right as the astronauts are told they are off course. They get inside the mini-plane and escape right as the container opens.<br /><br />The nose falls into the volcano and the entity goes up in flames with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-60871375888160267412017-03-06T18:46:48.524-07:002017-03-06T18:46:48.524-07:00Shooting off in different directions JUST because ...Shooting off in different directions JUST because there's all sorts of interesting stuff out there? You? Like you'd get distracted by "shiny" stuff the NASA study on an sub-orbital delivered fighter plane (NASA TM33 IIRC) or a Russian hybrid reusable spacecraft concept from the back in 2015 which combined a capsule and an airplane (see: http://iaass.space-safety.org/wp-content/Randy Campbellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-58323013305245022652017-03-04T16:12:13.864-07:002017-03-04T16:12:13.864-07:00Patents in general don't have to be "prac...Patents in general don't have to be "practical" in basic design or function* just in general principle in a new and innovative way. Practicality is determined by if you can actually get the patent to work in practice.<br /><br />In practice, (since I'm looking to use the design and similar in a possible time line :)) and probably actually assumed by the ones who wrote the patentRandy Campbellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-19932506404421755002017-03-04T15:35:52.435-07:002017-03-04T15:35:52.435-07:00IIRC the Soviets HAD to claim he landed in the cap...IIRC the Soviets HAD to claim he landed in the capsule for official reasons. To acclaim an official 'first' the "Pilot" has to remain in the vehicle for the whole flight per record regulations. (It was one of the very minor reasons that the Orbital X-15B concept was turned down)Since the Soviets controlled all access to the primary launch and landing operations but there was Randy Campbellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-39882017741617947782017-03-04T13:51:20.635-07:002017-03-04T13:51:20.635-07:00You are about 75% correct. I have some "new&q...You are about 75% correct. I have some "new" documents, plus it a Saturn C-3, intermediate between a C-1 and and C-5, not an Atlas-Centaur.<br /><br />dsfpDavid S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-3949312199134646882017-03-04T13:32:10.368-07:002017-03-04T13:32:10.368-07:00Milton O Thompson was one of the test pilots, the ...Milton O Thompson was one of the test pilots, the book covers the late 50's through to the mid 60's. There's a great chapter about the hot rodded tow car they used for the initial lifting body tests before the air drops.<br />KerrinKerrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14772378699685628833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-42456964036910268232017-03-04T10:36:55.480-07:002017-03-04T10:36:55.480-07:00i'm still a fan of THE SIX-MILLION DOLLAR MAN
...i'm still a fan of THE SIX-MILLION DOLLAR MAN<br />but today i love this campy look and feel, what you have watching trash move like STARCRASH <br /><br />>the lunar landing post I'm working on now. Totally unworkable, but some awesome robotics/teleoperations.<br /><br />oh here we go again, let me guess ? <br />JPL infamous "let send lunar ascent stage in pieces up and build to washttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00089303950984529995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-42193303025465985802017-03-04T08:46:00.319-07:002017-03-04T08:46:00.319-07:00I don;t think I've read that one! Thanks for t...I don;t think I've read that one! Thanks for the heads up.<br /><br />dsfpDavid S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-47489095945121563332017-03-04T08:45:29.999-07:002017-03-04T08:45:29.999-07:00Could be. I don't know if the Venusian atmosph...Could be. I don't know if the Venusian atmospheric composition would affect lifting body performance. <br /><br />dsfpDavid S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-87363478857807051972017-03-04T08:37:51.530-07:002017-03-04T08:37:51.530-07:00I was a big fan of THE SIX-MILLION DOLLAR MAN when...I was a big fan of THE SIX-MILLION DOLLAR MAN when it was on originally. Looking at it now, it seems pretty horrible. That's the case with quite a few TV shows I loved in the 1960s and 1970s. Not so much ST:TOS, however. Not sure if that's because I loved/love it so much or because it really stands the test of time. The 1960s TV BATMAN is also great fun still - a kid can enjoy it for the David S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-37390043771328880932017-03-04T08:20:53.179-07:002017-03-04T08:20:53.179-07:00Randy:
I could shoot off in all kinds of directio...Randy:<br /><br />I could shoot off in all kinds of directions with my posts - one of the challenges is to stay on topic and not get distracted by some other fascinating study so I abandon one post and start on another. Unfortunately, sometimes I'm not very good at that.<br /><br />The Vostok reference is meant to illustrate how the scheme described in this post involved, in effect, bailing David S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-8296998209885127872017-03-04T01:17:10.166-07:002017-03-04T01:17:10.166-07:00This over the top complexity make this a unpractic...This over the top complexity make this a unpractical spacecraft <br />That Gerry Anderson like hardware has to work flawless <br />Like enormous airtight seal between the Airplane and Lifting body. <br />or the Rail system for seats <br /><br />Ihe Drawing stagedreentry2a.jpg show the Lifting body got parachute (point I) <br />means it will be recover also.<br /><br />i would go for more washttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00089303950984529995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-39297244497083591562017-03-03T13:08:24.596-07:002017-03-03T13:08:24.596-07:00I wonder if this may make a return as the HOT EAGL...I wonder if this may make a return as the HOT EAGLE/SUSTAIN<br /><br />Maybe as a way to service Venus airships<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Altitude_Venus_Operational_Concept<br /><br />PubliusrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-41112551510525263982017-02-28T12:29:28.974-07:002017-02-28T12:29:28.974-07:00Hi David.
This is a very welcome article, I've...Hi David.<br />This is a very welcome article, I've just finished reading "Flying without wings". This is the history of NASA's lifting body research, written by Milton O Thompson & Curtis Peebles, an excellent & informative read.<br />KerrinKerrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14772378699685628833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-64556105308445274342017-02-28T09:04:48.172-07:002017-02-28T09:04:48.172-07:00You are welcome. Thanks for reading it.
dsfpYou are welcome. Thanks for reading it.<br /><br />dsfpDavid S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-62825786145470094082017-02-28T09:04:19.853-07:002017-02-28T09:04:19.853-07:00LOL. No, he didn't do his own stunts. My under...LOL. No, he didn't do his own stunts. My understanding is that Petersen suffered a severe back injury, but needed no bionic replacement parts.<br /><br />Petersen's crash did, however, become the footage used in the titles of THE SIX-MILLION-DOLLAR MAN, as you indicate. I never missed that show. I think my favorite episode was the one where Steve flew the lifting body that nearly killed David S. F. Portreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15818906581595028816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-74867209360981098032017-02-28T08:19:35.350-07:002017-02-28T08:19:35.350-07:00BTW, great article. Thanks for posting it.BTW, great article. Thanks for posting it.SagaciousHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511441325695460501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6633940777526327846.post-65288434770427023142017-02-28T08:18:38.589-07:002017-02-28T08:18:38.589-07:00I thought it was Col. Steve Austin who flipped the...I thought it was Col. Steve Austin who flipped the M2-F2 six times.SagaciousHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511441325695460501noreply@blogger.com